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   Delphi is gone    @ 2010-09-03, 17:58

前两天从猪圈的奥克熊那里,得知Delphi又出了新版了(Delphi XE),才发现自己已经很久没有关注过Delphi相关的信息了。今天,欧罗的帖子提到Delphi Distiller的作者不愿意出for XE的版本,特地去看了下,distiller的作者说(http://www.liteapplications.com/):

The guys at Embarcadero announced a few days ago that the next Delphi will be called Delphi XE and will be released in September. It will be a very minor update, nothing really new. There isn’t anything cross-platform or 64 bit here. More details at the RAD Studio XE website.

As everyone could expect, their attempt at Delphi cross-platformness is buggy as hell and they will need one more year to get it working. Very understandable. However, instead of releasing a preview (or not releasing anything), they are launching a rebranded Delphi from last year with a couple plugins, for the price of a major upgrade. It’s a good thing that most people know when to skip a version.

Still, some enthusiasts will want to install it as soon as a crack is available. The problem is that, as many of you will have noticed, the newest Embarcadero products are getting harder to crack, and at the same time there is a lack of interest by the programming community in anything new from Embarcadero. As a result, you may not see a crack until weeks after the official release. Scene release groups won’t even bother making new cracks after every update. There is a general feeling that Delphi is a thing of the past, and I agree.

I see very little point in upgrading to new Delphi versions nowadays. Delphi was already a mature product at the end of the nineties, and as much as they try, there is no way to make it much more productive than say, Delphi 7, without breaking compatibility. Besides, we aren’t in the nineties any more. We live in a world where open source is taking over (see Android). Basing new projects on a proprietary tool like Delphi from a small company like Embarcadero which struggles to stay afloat sounds crazy. I have advocated Delphi for years but honestly, I can’t recommend it any more.

So is there anything better than Delphi? We all know the options, but in my opinion only one beats Delphi in every aspect (except in compilation speed): Qt with C++. It is vastly more complete than the VCL or even .NET, it is free, cross-platform, open source, usable on commercial projects, 32 and 64 bit, works with the world’s best IDE (Visual Studio), the documentation is top quality, etc.

For these reasons, I would like to announce here that there won’t be a next version of Delphi Distiller. Maybe it’s time for a Qt Distiller ;)

易博龙是一家小公司,应该是没有足够的财力(更重要的是某种诱惑力)来留住顶尖的人才,在微软的VS高压之下,继续发展Delphi。况且,如今已经不再是售卖IDE的年代了,在免费开源的各种IDE(如Eclipse)和几乎免费又有口皆碑的VisualStudio重围中,也很难想象易博龙能依靠什么,来让Delphi冲出重围?个人认为,如果可能的话,将Delphi开源,让社区来维护继续发展,倒是有新生的可能性。至少凭借着往日的光环,和一个目前仍然存在的社区(情结),自成一派应该没什么问题。不过,这目前来看也是不可能的,就从Delphi在易博龙手中,反破解手段越来越强势可以看出。相对于产品反破解越来越强的,是社区对产品的兴趣度越来越低,这,注定是末路。其实,自从Borland决定出售Delphi(以及整个开发工具产品线)的那刻起,就已宣告了Delphi的末日。

对于喜欢优雅的Pascal/Object Pascal语言的程序员,其实,早已经有一个更有活力的免费开源产品作为替代了——Lazarus。基于跨平台的Free Pascal编译器,Lazarus本身也同时跨多个平台,包括Delphi还在road map中的Mac OS X,Win x64等平台的支持。

我自己,直到今年4月,仍然是使用的是2003年作为Borland产品专家,被Borland所赠与的Delphi 6.0版,不同于distiller作者所说,我觉得Delphi 6.0已经是一个非常稳定的版本了 ;) 。而从4月份开始,我就几乎再也没有打开过Delphi了。最常用的IDE,变成了Eclipse,语言,则变成了Python。由于项目原因,今后基本上也会更多的使用Python了。至于Lazarus/Free Pascal,去年做lazskin的时候,着实研究了一把,我看好它的未来,今后如果需要使用编译型语言的时候,我会首选Free Pascal的。

如distiller作者所言,我们已经不再处于90年代了,Delphi应该属于不再回来的过去了。

不出意外的话,这篇文章,也将是“钟爱Delphi”分类目录中,最后一篇文章了。

Because Delphi is gone…



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   Say byebye to Borland    @ 2009-05-06, 19:59

Borland软件公司今日宣布,接受Micro Focus公司的收购要约。同意以每股1美元或7500万美元的总价被收购。

Micro Focus是一家位于英国的软件公司,主要从事企业信息化及资产管理等业务。Borland公司曾是世界第三大软件公司,是微软与甲骨文的主要对手,但在上世纪90年代逐渐陷入困境。

Borland公司股价周二收于80美分,Micro Focus提出的收购价格较此有25%的溢价,而较Borland过去一个月间的平均股价溢价67%。

双方董事会都认可了收购协议,只等两家公司股东及反垄断监管机构批准。双方希望于第二季末或第三季初完成收购交易。

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这个logo,曾经让多少程序员仰慕和崇敬……
曾经具有向微软挑战的实力,如今却……

令人唏嘘~~



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   Delphi 2009 & Lazarus    @ 2008-08-07, 4:31

从李维的博客得知在Delphi找到新东家之后,很快要出新版了,而且是“這次的Tiburon應該算是CodeGear對於Delphi Win32以及C++Builder Win32從Delphi 7/C++Builder 5以來最大幅度的進步”。

对我来说,比较感兴趣的,是编译器和VCL组件库的改进,外围的工具兴趣不大。

据说,新版本的编译器要支持泛型和匿名方法(Anonymous Method),有点意思,这会让Delphi看起来越来越“现代” :lol: 。另外,VCL说是要全面支持unicode了,这一点被广大Delphier期待了多年,现在终于要来了。不过,其实TNT已经做得不错了。

具体东西如何,还是等正式发布了再看吧,希望真的如李维所说,品质要稳定才好。

记得曾经Borland想打造跨平台的CLX组件库。不过,随着kylix的失败,CLX也消失了。而在开源社区,却有一个跨平台的兼容Object Pascal语言的编译器——Free Pascal以及一个越来越可用的IDE——Lazarus(和他的组件库LCL)。

Lazarus 0.9.24自带了Free Pascal 2.2编译器,可以运行在Windows,Linux,Mac OS X等平台上。可以用来开发这些平台上(包括WinCE)的应用程序。习惯VCL的开发者,应该能很快适应它的LCL,因为他们相似度是如此的高。

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   Delphi 2007(?)    @ 2007-02-22, 13:18

所谓codegear网站得知Delphi 2007(for Win32)发布的消息,心里早就没有了以前那种,新版本Delphi出现时的激动和期盼了。

经过Borland出售开发工具产品线“闹剧”(有哪个卖主会整天叫嚷着某东西不赚钱,自己不想要了才拿出来叫卖?),到后来找不到买主自己换个马甲(所谓codegear)出来,对Borland以及其马甲都提不起任何兴趣了。

Delphi 7之后,Delphi这个名称,也已经被Borland及其马甲完全糟蹋掉了。

先是宣称要彻底抛弃Win32的Delphi 8出台,完全没人理会--边拆边扔

接着是宣称Win32回归(与.NET合并)的,开发代号是Diamond Back,但慢得要死、充满bug的Delphi 2005--把扔了的(Win32)捡回来,小集成

接着可能就是将内存管理模块替换成了第三方的FastMM后的Delphi 2005,再加上了所谓回归的C++Builder,变成了稍微快一些,但仍然充满bug的BDS 2006--把扔了的(C++Builder)捡回来,大集成

到现在,宣称Delphi for Win32,Delphi for .NET,Delphi for PHP(什么东西?)是一个产品家族的不同产品(至少,目前只宣称发布了Delphi 2007 for Win32)--又拆散?

至少在我看来,无论是Borland,还是codegear,其乱象似乎仍然没有结束~~

从宣传上来看,似乎2007版主要就是对Vista的支持。当然,我到现在仍然还没明白,Delphi 6(甚至Delphi 5)开发Win32应用在Vista上会有什么问题?至少我还没遇到。

当然,东西本身,还是要看到实际的,才能下结论。至少,如果稳定性能让人惊讶的话,那也很不错了。



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   Borland Delphi no more – It’s CodeGear Delphi!    @ 2006-11-17, 3:00

Borland Delphi no more – It’s CodeGear Delphi!
From Zarko Gajic,
Your Guide to Delphi Programming.
Nov 15 2006

TCodeGear.Create(Delphi)

It’s official: Delphi is no longer “Borland Delphi“, it’s “CodeGear Delphi“!

For a long time, the main page of the delphi.about.com (this) site was “About Borland Delphi Programming”, then I turned it into “About Borland (“Devco”) Delphi Programming”, today (11/14/2006) the *new name* is
About CodeGear Delphi Programming“!

TCodeGear.Enhance(Delphi)

And just when everybody felt nothing will happen (with Borland plans to sell its IDE business), Borland Developers Tool Group (DTG) transforms into a new company:
CodeGear.

CodeGear is the new company that is born of Borland – a company totally focused on developers.

Here’s the press release announcing CodeGear – formerly Borland’s Developer Tools Group

Here are answers to frequently asked questions about CodeGear.

Here are the most interesting points:

  • CodeGear is totally focused on developers.
  • CodeGear was not sold by Borland due to several issues: price, userbase future, products future and some more.
  • CodeGear is owned by Borland.
  • CodeGear is NOT completely controlled by Borland.
  • CodeGear will not focus on just a “few” programming languages (Delphi, Delphi.NET, Java, C++, C#).
  • CodeGear separation is expected to be complete before the end of this year (2006).

For a vast amount of blog posts and comments related to CodeGear visit:
delphifeeds.com

What all this has to do with you, a visitor/reader of the About Delphi Programming site? Well, not much.

I’ll keep on providing you with Delphi related tutorials, tips and articles. The name has changed, but the beast is still the best development tool ;)

Go Delphi, go CodeGear!

原文:http://delphi.about.com/od/humorandfun/a/codegear.htm



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   又被2001年写的一段话感动了一把    @ 2006-10-16, 12:53

偶然间,在网上翻看了自己在2001年写的《Delphi高手突破》第一章中的一段话,又被感动了一下:

我相信,走上编程这条路,对于我来说是必然的。能成为专业程序员,也是我所梦想并实现了的。但是,Delphi的出现以及被我所认识、熟悉、迷恋并成为工作的一部分,应该说是一个意外的惊喜。

还记得,当初,lp还是女朋友的时候,看到这段话后,气鼓鼓地说“你去娶Delphi吧”。 :grin:



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   Borland卖家产了    @ 2006-02-09, 0:08

转贴自:http://blogs.borland.com/davidi/archive/2006/02/08/23013.aspx

Borland plans separate company for Delphi, JBuilder, C++Builder, InterBase, JDataStore and other developer products…

To our loyal developer community:

Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products.

It is not a trivial decision to separate our IDE business from our ALM business. As we look back over the past two years and how we have operated as a company, we have continually had to weigh every dollar investment in our ALM and developer products. All too often we have chosen to invest in ALM, because of our stated direction around ALM growth and market opportunity. But we all know that our loyal customer base demands more. There is tremendous potential that has been untapped due to the company’s focus towards an enterprise go-to-market model, with an emphasis on a more consultative, lifecycle sale forcing us to invest more into our ALM products, ALM marketing, and our enterprise field model. This is a very different model from our mostly channel-focused, direct-to-developer marketing, and delivery model (using shrink wrapped boxes and e-shop downloads).

Focus is a key success factor in business. With this announcement, both companies will have the focus they need to thrive and help our customers be successful. I think it’s great that Borland is letting us be part of a new focused company that brings together the team that is passionate about developers and development. We want to continue to create the best solutions and technology for the benefit of you, our community of developers. We are developers working on developer products for our customers who are developers. This is a special relationship that is unique in software. We get to work on products that we use ourselves and that our developer community love.

I started using Turbo Pascal v1.0 in November of 1983 when Philippe Kahn gave me a copy at Comdex Las Vegas. I put it in my IBM PC and knew immediately that this was something different. From that day, I knew I wanted to go to work for Borland. I started working at Borland on June 17, 1985 and for the past 20+ years I have had the pleasure of being a part of a great company and a great community of software developers. I’ve had the luxury and pleasure to manage the compiler group in R&D in the early Turbo Language days. For the past 15 years I’ve run Developer Relations allowing me (and our team) to travel around the world to visit with tens of thousands of programmers. I get to come to work every day and collaborate with the best developer focused software engineers on the planet.

I’m really excited to be moving to the new company. We’ve got the right team members, we’ve got the tool and component partner eco-system, we have the authors, trainers, consultants, and we have the most important part – a loyal community. Our new company will be focused completely on you and your success. Yes, both companies will have a focus on software development. Both are going to advance the state-of-the-art and best practices. They’ll just do it in different ways. Ours will do it by focusing on developer productivity and building great application development products using our award winning IDEs, tools, component libraries, class libraries, and database technologies. Borland will do it by addressing the needs of larger organizations, helping them optimize their software delivery.

I was asked today by Daryl Taft of eWeek magazine, “As Borland’s longest term employee, how does the spin-off hit you?” I answered by saying, I am moving forward as part of the new company with a huge smile on my face and a small tear in my eye.

I want to assure all of you that we are here in Scotts Valley, and around the world, working on future versions of Delphi, JBuilder and our other products. We are still listening to your needs, issues, and suggestions. We are tracking with the new platform initiatives for Windows, .NET, Java, open standards, and emerging technologies that you want to leverage.

This is the right thing to do for our IDE business. It’s the right thing to do for Borland’s ALM focus. Our priority is to ensure a smooth and successful migration for our developer customer base, and create a vehicle for giving it greater investment, focus and growth. This is not the shutting down of a product line, but the empowering of it. This move is in the best interests of our customers, company, and community.

The buyer of our IDE product lines has not yet been identified, but I and other members of our developer team are working with Borland’s executive management to ensure that we identify the right buyer who will advance the IDE business. Borland is committed to its customers first and foremost, and taking care of their ongoing needs. We will keep you informed along the journey.

Go Borland. Go New Company. Go Developers!!!

David Intersimone, “David I”
Vice President, Developer Relations and Chief Evangelist
Borland Software Corporation



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   Delphi 2006来了!    @ 2005-12-05, 17:23

昨晚突然拉肚子,一直到半夜4:00。稍好后,睡不着,索性起床,Delphi 2006已经下载好了,安装。

装完后运行,第一感觉,速度好快。Delphi 8、Delphi 2005慢如蜗牛,就不用比了,甚至感觉比Delphi 6还快,包括启动速度,操作的响应速度,非常不错。

不过启动封面好丑。

白天睡了一会儿,然后终于把所有的VCL产品都支持Delphi 2006了。这主要得益于Delphi 6之后的VCL(Win32)库变化小了。新版本的支持工作主要在安装程序的修改,当然也有其他一些修改来应付一些出乎意料的变化,比如某个VCL内部类名的变化,要做一些处理,基本上就是增加编译条件判断。

另外,病来如山倒,身体健康真的很重要!

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   当Borland已成往事:献给曾经的Borland    @ 2005-11-11, 22:38

文章很伤感,不过,其对Borland的感情与我类似,因此也有些共鸣。转贴于此,谨以怀念。

当Borland已成往事:献给曾经的Borland

一、当Borland已成往事

  老方说偶占着Borland分类的位子,却很久没谈Borland,想想也是。不过现在的Borland还有什么可谈的呢?
  昨天看了高论发的关于Borland最新的IDE——DeXter的一个DemoVideo,令狐8了一篇关于Borland的东东。对于Borland这个公司,我们的观点是基本一致的。
  Borland已经变了。不再是以前那个意气风发的江湖侠客,而是一个脑大肠肥的地方富贾;他拥有的,不再是那些充满灵气的开发工具,而是那些沾满铜钱味的企业解决方案。
  Borland,不再是我以前认识的那个Borland了。
  不过作为一家商业公司,利润远比技术理想更重要。当开发工具带来的利润越来越少时,在股东的压力下,必须要有新的利润增长点才行。
  七八年前,Borland第一次尝试从开发工具领域向企业应用领域时,公司甚至为此改了个名字叫Inprise。结果Anders离开了,Borland差点把自己玩死。
  前一两年,Borland又开始转向企业解决方案,不过这次是针对软件开发企业,倒还没有偏离太多。但结果又是Black.Stone, Chuck.Jazdzewski等人离开了。
  与此相反的,Borland的每一次辉煌,都与开发工具紧密相连。
  83年公司成立,就是仗着Anders的成名作:Turbo Pascal 1.0。之后的整个DOS时代,开发工具几乎都是Borland的天下:Turbo Pascal,Turbo C,Turbo C++……
  Windows 3.x的时代,又是Borland的Borland C++出来拯救了广大的开发人员。再之后便是Delphi。
  但是这些都已经是往事了(详情请自行参见李维的《Borland传奇》一书)。

  问题在于现在如何了呢?

  自从.net出来以后,Borland就乱了阵脚。首先是Kylix表现平平,加之Borland打算加入Linux阵营领导集团的企图也告失败,只好退出Linux平台下的开发工具领域。然后是MS放出风声说要把Win32全部转到.net下,Borland又匆匆忙忙推出for .net的C#Builder和Delphi 8,结果又是大败。想要搞一个平台无关的C++BuilderX,同样还是惨遭失败。
  当C++BuilderX出来时,我写过一篇《C++ BuilderX的问题与展望》,后来在Delphi 2005出来前,我又写了一篇《传说中的DELPHI9–DiamondBack》。但是现在还有什么好写的呢?
  这个DeXter看上去还好:仍然是那个叫Galileo的IDE,也许它会是BDS4,还是在.net平台下跑,比Delphi 2005增加了对原生C++的支持,基本上相当于把C++Builder 6集成到Delphi 2005里。仅此而已。
  当然,要说增强的方面也不是没有,至少Delphi 2005中增加的像重构,单元测试,增强的调试功能……这些都是C++ Builder 6所没有的。且不说这些方面在DeXter中能做到什么程度还是一个未知数,更何况在Delphi.net中那些重量级的增强功能像ECOII和 Together却应该是用不上的。最关键的是:
  一个做原生C++应用开发的,为什么需要依赖.net?
  C+ +BuilderX用的IDE——PrimeTime——依赖JAVA已经让人很不爽了。VS做大而全有它的平台基础,Borland没有自己的平台,在.net下根本不是VS.net的对手。还不如放弃这个Galileo的IDE,把Delphi.net、Together、ECOII以for VS.net的方式提供,集中力量把该做的事做好。至于原生应用,就继续按照原生的路子走,别老想着把原生的东西弄到某个平台上,不论是.net还是 JAVA。
  一不小心又对Borland指手划脚了,还是回头做我的ABAP吧。.net还是JAVA跟偶有什么关系呢?
  也许到很多年以后,当有人提起Borland时,我大概还是会想起曾经发生过的那些往事吧。
  BTW:据蔡蔡回复说DeXter是基于Eclipse的CDE,如果是这样的话,那还不错。不过我很怀疑Borland会真的下定决心抛弃Galileo和PrimeTime这两个IDE,而转向Eclipse。毕竟Borland不是IBM。

二、献给曾经的Borland
  不记得曾经多久没有谈论和关心Borland了。每天习惯性的输入“borland.mblogger.cn”的时候,居然也很少联想到这个曾经心目中最了不起的公司。
  今天老鼠发了一个Borland新版IDE的Flash演示。虽然现在看到新版的Borland产品,不再像以前那样心潮澎湃欣喜若狂,但还是让我不自觉的想起曾经迷恋Borland,迷恋Borland产品,迷恋Borland传奇的那些日子。
  注册了Borland板块的Blog以来,我几乎没有写过一篇跟borland有关的blog,心里不免是有些愧疚的,今天,借着这个机会,让我小小的弥补一下吧。
  曾经的Borland像一个侠客,面对微软、IBM、Sun这样的大公司,Borland一不趋炎附势,二不低头认输,虽然曾经几起几伏,但还是凭借自己在RAD工具、C++编译器方面的深厚功力顽强生存了下来,并且在软件开发的市场占有了一席之地。
  Turbo C 2.0、Turbo Pascal 7.0、Borland C++ 3.1,这些昔日的经典作品,曾经让多少人废寝忘食,从此走上编程之路。
  Delphi、JBuilder、C++ Builder,这些重量级的产品,又曾经让多少人如释重负,将枯燥乏味的Windows开发变成轻松的享受。
  就连那些失败的产品,也可圈可点。比如Kylix,险些就改变了Linux下应用程序的开发方式;比如C++Builder X,提出的很多概念让人耳目一新。
  如果不是那该死的.NET……
  微软的.NET宣传突然间铺天盖地,来势汹汹,为我们营造了一个“.NET everywhere”的世界。比起其前辈Java的“write once, run everywhere”有过之而无不及。在如此强大的宣传攻势下,有几个人能够保持清醒的头脑呢?
  Borland自然也不例外,他希望自己再次站在.NET的前沿阵地。
  于是,C# Builder来了,Delphi.NET 也来了。

  但是.NET和Windows API不一样。Windows API是flat function的形式,对于OOP并不十分友好,甚至有些理念(如回调函数)还有相冲突之处,因此,VCL将其封装成OO的形式,是十分有利于快速开发的;而.NET从一诞生起就考虑到了组件化和可视化的问题,因此,使用VCL将其再次封装,不仅没有什么好处,反而让人产生了使用上的不习惯。
  再加上如今.NET并没有微软当初宣传的那样流行,Borland的迎合举动,反而让自己陷入了一个尴尬境地。
  在.NET宣传如日中天的时候,C++ Builder坚持走本地化开发的路,总算是Borland的一次明智举动,否则,如今的BCB一定会像managed C++那样消失的无影无踪(因为Borland不可能敢像微软那样大刀阔斧的改动C++本身)。但是,那个如同测试版一样的BCBX实在是伤了大家的心,BCB也因此险些从Borland的开发计划中消失。真是可悲可叹。
  其实当初BCBX的概念提出的时候我是非常看好它的,因为它的许多概念(比如多GUI框架支持,多编译器、多平台支持,C++代码重构)都是很先进的。可惜那个最终实现……
  现在,Borland新的产品又出现了。很久没有关注Borland的我,没有了以前的那份激动。我的感觉是,产品成熟了,但是没有了那份锐气。
  Borland的网站也改版了,遵循了XHTML标准,板块区分也清晰了。但是,以前长长一串的products名单,现在变成了寥寥3项:Application LifeCycle、IDE、Application Middleware。
  Borland已经变了,不再是以前那个意气风发的江湖侠客,而是一个脑大肠肥的地方富贾;他拥有的,不再是那些充满灵气的开发工具,而是那些沾满铜钱味的企业解决方案。
  Borland,不再是我以前认识的那个Borland了。
  看着现在的borland.com首页,我突然想起了《白马啸西风》中的一句话:
  那都是很好很好的,可是我偏不喜欢。
  就让从前的那个Borland,伴随着他的经典作品,一起封存在我的记忆中吧。



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   装了Delphi 2005    @ 2004-11-24, 18:28

终于装好Delphi2005了,第一印象分:80,还不错!希望果真是Diamond Back!
按此在新窗口打开图片

试了一下,D6/D7的工程以及控件基本都可以直接编译运行和安装(有些涉及到编译器版本的编译条件可能需要修改一下以识别新的版本号为17.0的DCC32编译器)。

Delphi2005的专业版才999美元。对于这样规模的商业软件来说,实在算不上贵,等出sp1的时候,看稳定性如何,考虑值不值得买一套。

问了一下,Borland在国内不卖专业版,而且企业版和构架师版都卖超乎想象的高价(比美元定价*8.3还要高几乎两倍),唉,Borland还是欺负中国人啊~~原先有点蠢蠢欲动,购买正版的想法就此灰飞烟灭~~



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